Hi Karun,

Good question -- I am not sure the reason for the remaining approximately 2 arcmin residual error.

For our purposes for the time being, though, as long as we have the payload on the (15 x 15 arcmin) field of view, we're good enough -- it's only a big problem if it is outside the field of view. So I think we're OK at least for now as long as we align to that precision. (We might have to improve further at a later point, but 2 arcmin is good enough for now.)

 thanks,
 justin

On Mon, 19 Aug 2013 17:09:54 GMT, Karun Thanjavur wrote:

> Hi Yorke and Justin,
>     Very well done with this flight, and thanks very much for this
> detailed account as well. I am sorry the tracking on the telescope was
> off and prevented you from getting much 'science' data; glad to note
> you have traced and rectified the cause. What do you think is reason
> for the remaining 2 arc.min residual error? with the built-in GPS, the
> pointing should be much better than that, I would presume?
> 
> We owe much to Todd for the safe retrieval of the payload, quite the
> adventure. If frozen dew is indeed the cause of the parafoil malfunction,
> we'll obviously have to devise a way to avoid this in future. Perhaps both
> of you have ideas already?
> 
> Hope the Hanover weather permits many more such flights soon, permitting
> us to move operations down to Mt. Hopkins in the near future.
> Clear skies
> Karun
> 
> >
> > *** Discussion title: ALTAIR Balloon
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > For documentation, the below is a brief summary of the ALTAIR flight
> > that Yorke and I did in the early morning hours last Sunday (Aug. 11,
> > 2013), and the recovery of the payload from a tall tree by Todd
> > Anderson, assisted by Yorke (with me observing), the following day
> > (Mon., Aug. 12).
> >
> > Please do just follow up with anything I happen to miss, or get wrong,
> > Yorke and Todd -- since I'm posting this without checking first to make
> > sure we have the story straight!
> >
> > Yorke and I began to set up at just before 2 am on Aug. 11 for a launch
> > from Garipay Field in Hanover, NH. Yorke had determined, for a launch at
> > around 4 am, the winds would carry ALTAIR approximately to the location
> > of Robert Frost Lane in Etna, NH (approximately 5 km away from the
> > launch site) if we cut the payload down when it reached 3000 m altitude.
> > The purpose of the flight was to attempt to observe and get image(s) of
> > the payload in flight via the Harvard Meade LX200 portable telescope and
> > SBIG camera (using the green LED beacon rather than the full laser diode
> > and integrating sphere payload, to get experience with getting telescope
> > images without risking the full payload). The telescope+camera and
> > recovery tracking station were set up by Yorke at the Robert Frost Lane
> > location.
> >
> > The weather was fairly good: clear skies, and predicted and actual winds
> > low enough so that we could at least get up to 3000 m without the
> > payload ending up in deep forests outside the region. There was quite a
> > bit of early morning dew at the launch site.
> >
> > The setup for the launch went well: we were set up, balloon filled and
> > ready for launch at around 3:20 am. Yorke then proceeded to the Robert
> > Frost Lane location to setup the telescope and recovery tracking
> > station, and I remained at Garipay Field to pull the cord to launch and
> > to man the launch tracking station.
> >
> > Yorke had set up the telescope and recovery station, and called me by
> > about 4:20 am. He noted that there was some difficulty with the
> > telescope star alignment (needed to track and take images of the payload
> > in flight), and he wanted to try aligning again.
> >
> > Yorke called again at around 4:35 am, and said that the alignment was
> > likely as good as it would get during the launch window before sunrise
> > (and before sky background would start to increase dramatically) and
> > that we should thus proceed with launch. I thus turned the payload and
> > LED beacon on and, after countdown, launched the balloon and payload at
> > approximately 4:45 am.
> >
> > The LED beacon was easily visible by eye throughout the entire flight,
> > by both Yorke and myself. Other than the moon, it was the brightest
> > object in the sky throughout essentially all of its flight -- even at
> > apogee it was approximately 1st magnitude. When Yorke performed the
> > cutdown at 3000 m altitude via the recovery station, I could easily see
> > its effects from the launch site a few kilometres both away and below,
> > via the LED beacon and payload shaking, and thus the green light
> > blinking in and out of view. A few cell phone pictures of the green LED
> > beacon during its flight are attached.
> >
> > Unfortunately, the star alignment of the telescope was not sufficient to
> > get telescope images of the payload in flight. The pre-alignment
> > automatically performed by the Meade LX200 using its level sensors and
> > compass is sufficiently off such that the stars that it then selects for
> > the user's star alignment are actually outside the field of view of the
> > telescope. Yorke and I later (on Wednesday night) diagnosed and
> > (hopefully) solved this issue, but it prevented us from obtaining
> > telescope images of the payload in flight on Sunday.
> >
> > After Yorke performed the cutdown, he then actively controlled the
> > parafoil in order to attempt to have the payload land as close as
> > possible to the recovery station. Yorke noted that the parafoil did not
> > appear to be responding to commands as much as it should have been.
> > Yorke and I both lost contact with the payload at about 2000 m altitude,
> > and the payload landed approximately 1 km beyond (i.e. east of) the
> > recovery site.
> >
> > After packing up our respective sites, Yorke and I went driving around,
> > Yorke with an antenna and receiver, to attempt to get a signal and thus
> > GPS location of the payload. At first we were unsuccessful, but after
> > Yorke briefly went home to obtain an improved flight-path prediction of
> > where the payload might be, we then drove to an area that looked like
> > the best possibility, and Yorke fortunately obtained a signal and GPS
> > info. The GPS location of the payload was on land behind the Morton
> > Farm, which is land on the outskirts of Hanover owned by Dartmouth and
> > is the Dartmouth Equestrian Center.
> >
> > We then proceeded to the Morton Farm to see where the payload had ended
> > up. Behind the Morton Farm there are trails in the woods, one of which
> > took us to approximately 300 m from the GPS location of the payload. We
> > then went off the trail through the woods to the GPS location. The
> > payload was found to be at the GPS location, very high in an oak tree,
> > hanging from the parafoil approximately 60 ft above the ground, with
> > green LED beacon still on. A technical climb, with climbing equipment
> > which we would have to bring later, would be required to retrieve the
> > payload. Location noted, we returned to our vehicles. From our vehicles,
> > Yorke used the antenna to obtain a connection with the payload and turn
> > the LED beacon off, to save the battery from running completely to zero.
> > We then went back to our respective homes to get some rest (at that time
> > it was about 10 am on Sunday morning).
> >
> > Yorke realized that the dew that collected on the parafoil prior to
> > launch had likely frozen during flight and prevented the parafoil from
> > steering and performing nearly as well as it should have. This
> > definitely seems like the most likely explanation for that.
> >
> > Todd returned on Sunday evening from a trip to Utah, and is an
> > experienced climber, so he very kindly volunteered to be the tree
> > climber on Monday to retrieve the payload. This is a very hazardous
> > technical climbing task, especially with the payload in a very
> > dangerously high location, so Yorke and I both owe a very great deal to
> > Todd for successfully getting the payload, and more importantly himself,
> > as well as all the ropes, carabiners, and climbing equipment, down from
> > over 60 ft up in a very tall forest tree. Yorke is also an experienced
> > climber, with his own equipment, so he performed the extremely critical
> > tasks of both belaying Todd, and also getting the top-rope started on a
> > branch about 20 feet off the ground. Todd successfully retrieved the
> > payload, and got it and himself down, belayed by Yorke, at about 3:30 pm
> > on Monday afternoon. This was extremely fortunate because early the
> > following morning (Tuesday), starting at about 4 am, heavy rain began,
> > and fell steadily throughout Tuesday.
> >
> > On Wednesday the skies began to clear, and on Wednesday evening Yorke
> > and I got the telescope out to see if we could understand the alignment.
> > Yorke set it up, and after doing the automatic pre-alignment, he
> > determined the stars which it was then suggesting for the star alignment
> > were both a few degrees outside the two fields of view. Yorke aligned to
> > those stars, and then found that the telescope was then in good
> > alignment, demonstrated by it then being able to accurately and
> > precisely enough (i.e. within no more than a couple arcminutes, which is
> > definitely good enough) being able to find Saturn, Vega, Altair (the
> > star, not the payload), Deneb, etc.
> >
> > Early the following (Thursday) morning, I had to fly out to go back to
> > the west coast.
> >
> > Please follow up with what I have missed and got wrong!
> >
> >  thanks,
> >  justin
> >
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> >       http://projectaltair.org/HyperNews/get/AUX/2013/08/18/20.23-40301-ToddRecoveredPayload.JPG
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